Orovo and Network Success Builders
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Orovo Makes a Major Blunder
This is not so much a blog post about Orovo.
It’s a post about one man’s lack of personal and business integrity and how it is impacting a large number of people.
I have no strong opinions about Orovo products one way or the other. It seems to me that Orovo products have gained a lot of popularity, and based on that observation I can easily believe that Orovo’s products are effective.
It is not at all the purpose of this article to raise any questions or doubts about the Orovo product line or to imply in any way that Orovo is a scam or rip-off. I will however expose a recent decision that Orovo made which unfortunately jeopardizes Orovo’s entire business.
Money Making Schemes
In a recent post I discussed how Radio Stations Tout Money Making Schemes. Hard times have forced mass media to carry advertising that was once taboo.
On July 10, 2008 in ASD Ad Surf Daily Cash Generator I exposed a popular money making scheme that has since received some much publicized and unwanted attention from the Office of the U.S. Attorney General.
This time my focus is on one of the people behind money making schemes. I turn my attention to Bill Arnold of Network Success Builders, the man whose unscrupulous business tactics and lack of personal integrity may in time cause tremendous damage to Orovo and to Orovo’s distributors.
The Anatomy of a Scam
It sounded too good to be true.
I met Bill Arnold a while back through Direct Matches, the online social networking site. Since springtime Bill on his Network Success Builders conference calls has promised listeners the moon.
To qualify for Bill’s money making dream a new recruit was required to join Vitamark through Network Success Builders, place a 100 point initial product order, and continue to place 100 point product orders every four weeks.
In essence here is what Bill Arnold promised Network Success Builders members:
1. A team of top InterNetwork marketers who — once Bill “flicked the switch” — would supposedly build down in Vitamark under Network Success Builders members generating massive amounts of what is commonly known as “spillover” for Network Success Builders members. The plan was to “feather the nest” with as many new recruits as possible before Bill flicked the switch.
2. Bill had supposedly made a deal with Internet Marketing Gorillas, LLC, the inventor of the AUMMB lead generation technology, whereby Internet Marketing Gorillas would place several dozen people into Vitamark under Network Success Builders members thereby creating even more spillover. Internet Marketing Gorillas would generate free leads for all Network Success Builders members in exchange for the spillover that they too would receive as part of the money making scheme.
3. Bill had supposedly made another deal with Peter Minglis of PM Marketing / Network Leads to supply free leads and a free contact manager to Network Success Builders members in exchange for spillover they too would receive as part of the scheme.
4. Network Success Builders members were to receive free marketing training and free custom search-engine friendly websites — co-branded Vitamark and Network Success Builders — as part of their membership package.
If Bill had followed through on his promises, there would be scores of happy people, and I wouldn’t be writing about his callousness and about Orovo’s stupidity. I fully believe that he had intended at the outset deliver with Vitamark, but several obstacles got in his way.
1. Bill over promised. People who lack personal integrity tend to do that.
2. Bill got very sick. That was sad, poor luck and poor timing. It set him back, and made it harder to deliver on his inflated promises.
3. Bill has control problems that prevented him from accepting help from people who would have pitched in and helped.
4. Bill’s delay, control issues, and lack of open communication alienated people whose support was essential for the project’s success.
5. Peter Minglis’ leads turned out to be really bad just as they have pretty much always been. I had very bad experiences with Peter’s brother and with PM Marketing about five years ago which left me without any desire to give them business ever again. In recent years Peter has lent support to the Distributors Rights Association. Kudos to Peter, but I still wouldn’t give PM Marketing my business.
6. Bill’s training is mediocre. It’s kind of like buying a defective CD, and only the first track plays. It keeps replaying over and over. I wonder what will happen once Orovo realizes this, since they’re swinging their whole organization under Bill Arnold in order to get his training.
New Round of Promises
Bill announced that he’s quitting Vitamark. Here’s what he had to say:
Vitamark has excellent management and great products. The fact is that I was in the single best position to reap the benefits of that program. I have nothing bad to say about Vitamark.
However, I am cancelling my Vitamark position. This means I am walking away from a serious income that is already generated. True revenue that was being paid out each month…. Surprised? Me Too!
The reason is simple is that myself have been offered an opportunity that makes the Vitamark one seem anemic. ANYONE WHO JOINS ME WILL FIND THAT THIS IS THE SINGLE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO A SIX FIGURE INCOME! The Company is OROVO!
How can I be so sure, [I] have struck a deal with the President of Orovo. In exchange for our training programs they will put in several hundred people beneath us each and every month. They will also move over existing downline and teams. For those who sign up now, by next month you will be in a positive cash flow and on your way to very serious income very quickly. OROVO has no sign up fee, just the cost of buying the monthly auto-ship.
Too good to be true?
I don’t know what will happen when Orovo discovers that Bill Arnold is a buffoon and unable to deliver the training they so desperately need. I can’t imagine that it will be very pretty.
I also don’t know what will happen if and when Bill quits Orovo and herds people over to his next program.
Incidentally, Bill’s Vitamark exit strategy includes taking his downline’s downline with him, not just the people he personally sponsored. This form of cross recruiting is totally unethical.
When I confronted Bill on this subject, he replied:
The fact is that I sent the email to everyone in my downline with Vitamark.
Everyone on my team deserved an equal to know that I had made a material shift and why.
I am not trying to leverage anyone to anything, But offer everyone an opportunity that is a phenomenal way to quickly earn a significant income.
Pure rationalization!
Lack of personal and business integrity is a major problem in our society.
We must work on our own integrity and that of out children. We must also seek out leaders, Go-Givers and people of noble character.
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5 Responses to “Orovo and Network Success Builders”

1. Raymond Fellers on August 31st, 2008 5:54 pm

I’m glad that you are such a diligent seeker of the truth Larry. Thanks for the review and warning.
2. Barb on August 31st, 2008 6:32 pm

This is interesting. Have never heard of Orovo products but from what I read in your article, Orovo and Network Success Builders joins the many empty promises that are made on the internet. If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Thanks for posting this.
3. Larry Brauner on August 31st, 2008 6:46 pm

I have learned more since writing this article.

Don’t point a finger at Orovo.

It’s Bill Arnold and Network Success Builders making empty promises, not Orovo.

I believe that we’re going to read a comment in the next day that will underscore that.
4. Chris Hope on August 31st, 2008 6:53 pm

Never heard of these players either. Orovo and Network Success Builders fall right in line with all the other scams out there. As far as this jerk Bill Arnold, what goes round comes around.
5. Larry Brauner on August 31st, 2008 7:02 pm

I want to emphasize Chris that Orovo is not a scam.
6. Robin Rushlo on Your comment is awaiting moderation. August 31st, 2008 7:16 pm

True Orovo is a great company with great products but now for the rest of the story.

I have dealt with William “Bill” Arnold Since Oct of 2007 in Bookwise. He has a track record of over promise under produce in my opinion.

Pushing YTB, and Vitamark as then end be all just add a few people and we add the rest. Never happened. Then I was added to his Network Success Builders program without my knowledge. Further I have call the founder and senior VP of Orovo and both told me ” No such deal has been struck with Bill Arnold ” per the quote from both the founder , President and VP of Orovo.

So, you get a letter from William ” Bill” Arnold run not walk away to save yourself.

I was also at the beginning of all of Bill Arnold programs and he never has any Legal right to this item or program at
“””Bill had supposedly made a deal with Internet Marketing Gorillas, LLC, the inventor of the AUMMB lead generation technology, whereby Internet Marketing Gorillas would place several dozen people into Vitamark under Network Success Builders members thereby creating even more spillover. Internet Marketing Gorillas would generate free leads for all Network Success Builders members in exchange for the spillover that they too would receive as part of the money making scheme.””

He never made nor consummated any deal with this company. It could take from 5 days to 6 weeks to even hear from Bill and when you sit on the outside of his “INNER GROUP” you may never hear from him.

Trust me I have made money in Orovo with a TRUE GO GIVER team. Never found such a team with Bil Arnold.
Trust em I have fill the leaders of Orovo as to what Bill Arnold has done to companies in the past.

The views and opinions in this article are my own based on my knowledge and experience at the time of writing. They are not to be construed as fact nor taken as business advice.

You may append your views and opinions by posting a comment to this article. Please represent them as opinion rather than fact. As blog publisher and commenter I reserve the right to edit or reject any comment for any reason but assure you that I do not do so capriciously.
7. Robin Rushlo on Your comment is awaiting moderation. August 31st, 2008 7:18 pm

Orovo and Network Success Builders are NOT joined.

This is from a call with the founder within the hour.

Again per his phone call “NO DEAL WAS MADE”, and Network Success Builders and OROVO have not joined.

AS I stated before ” In my opinion and track record I will continue to leave this posted based on my opinion.